Voted for this. South Africa is DEI and ESG on steroids. Congratulations to Poland for achieving economic prosperity while preserving its borders and culture. The rest of Western Europe is headed the way of South Africa. England, France, and Germany continue their suicidal embrace of open borders, net zero, and censorship.
👎🏼👎🏼 since there is no dislike option as a response to your bogus comment.
Immigrants that made great contributions to the well being and improvement of the USA; not the immigrants, legal and illegal, wanting to force the destruction of the nation.
Thank you for this clear vision and invitation to the South African Government to find its path back to sanity!
I am ashamed to be a South African!
I have come of age when South Africa produced enough cheap energy to energise the entire African Renaissance in 1992 - we had all the potential to build... all tribes and tongues of this multi-ethnic continent we still are. As Afrikaners, we democratically voted to go on Mandela's proposed path of reconciliation, to become the best versions each tribe can offer to our continent of many cultures. We did not sign up for CRITICAL RACE THEORY, CULTURAL MARXISM or PAN-AFRICANIST BLACK-RACE-NATIONALISM!
Still, the ANC's solipsistic, self-righteous and perpetual victimhood ideology has destroyed Mandela's promise, and this year the ANC decided to maintain their delusions of grandeur as if the world owes it anything but contempt for what it has destroyed... is destroying!
How would you reply to this passage from Minister Lamola's response?
"Today, more than 95 per cent of households have access to electricity, and piped water now reaches close to 90 per cent of households. This was not the case in 1994, when access to basic services was structured along racial lines, with white South Africans given preference over all other groups. Consider this for a moment: in 1994, only 40 per cent of black South Africans had access to electricity, compared with virtually universal access for white households. This skewed picture has only changed because successive democratic administrations did not waver on redistribution."
Those redistributive policies destroyed productive agency and locked the door for progress...
We should not want handouts because it is possible to create an entire class of people who will never want to create anything, build anything, or experience any sense of personal agency or accountability. The state will provide!
It's like being a bacteria in a petri dish!
That is the entire WEF agenda! COVID was a dress rehearsal!
Independent norm-forming communities are the solution, not "doomsday preppers" - productive community!
Post-1994, Eskom's National Electrification Programme electrified over 8.3 million households, increasinging access from 36% to 90%—a massive, distributed rural grid rollout unmatched globally at the timachieved throughvia subsidies, prepaid met, andeans & ANC policy focus on underserved areas. Yet, this drove demand surges without capacity planning, yielding minimal socio-economic lift: low usage (100kWh/month) among poor households stifled growth, while 1998 warnings of 2007 shortfalls were ignored amid privatisation
Too-late buildouts (Medupi/Kusile delayby ed years) + Zuma-era corruption (R139B stolen, syndicates looting coal) caused load shedding from 2007, costing R43B+ in GDP hits & sparking economconcerns that led to ic Eskom's R400B+ d.bt? Averted collapse only by endless bailouts from a shrinking tax base - look at the unemployment stats! SA's power promise, betrayed.
Except no one is talking about “handouts.” We’re talking about equal access to electricity.
If you think ensuring equal access to electricity will encourage people never to create or build anything, I can only conclude that you are anti-electricity, in which case your participation in an Internet discussion is inconsistent with your own views.
You clearly don't know Eskom's post-1994 history and the disasters of (essentially) free access to electricity. Using energy/electricity to buy rural votes instead of creating jobs or functional communities and local economies.
I believe the Minister said that today, more than 95% of households have access to electricity. So it seems that those issues, if indeed they ever existed, have been ironed out.
Are you saying you believe it would have been better to continue the inequitable situation rather than temporarily inconvenience some people?
In South Africa's case it also means that "you may have a light plug or a tap but due to our incompetence we have no water or electricity to deliver to you"
Hundreds of children die from starvation in this country ... every year, 87 murders a day, a woman is raped every 74 seconds, 400+ GBV cases reported EVERY DAY!
Do not let the ANC pull the wool of the world's eyes.
Another shameful abdication of responsible leadership by Secretary of State Rubio, in this so-called justification for excluding South Africa. Shameless groveling to the extreme views of President Trump.
Excellent rebuttal. I like how you addressed Secretary Rubio's numerous points, one by one, with compelling evidence. Versus a snide, unsupported blanket statement. Well done, Mr. Expert.
You talk about extreme views? Please show me more extreme views than CRITICAL RACE THEORY, CULTURAL MARXISM or PAN-AFRICANIST BLACK-RACE-NATIONALISM!
It is destroying your own country, as well as the entire African Continent!
The African Union's official theme for 2025 is drenched in these extremely destructive views. This year the AU are looking for "Justice for Africans and People of African Descent Through Reparations."
These are the views being dismantled by the Trump Administration, and Secretary Rubio knows what these extreme views have been doing to the security of the USA and the World, for that matter!
P.S. Creating/Negotiating peace in the African Lakes Region is another win for the Trump Administration! Well done Secretary Rubio.
There is no peace in the Great Lakes. Unfortunately the fighting continues. Don’t believe everything the blabbering pedophile says! He lacks the competence to solve that conflict.
South Africa rates 41st among nations, behind countries like the Phillipines, Romania, Vietnam, Thailand and Bangladesh to name just a few between 30 and 40 list of national GDP.
While you did not make the US policy a racist issue (what are the 'extreme views' in your mind); others have to which I ask why is it racist to exclude South Africa but not racist to exclude other nations that have greater GDP than South Africa.
When the G20 was founded in 1999, South Africa was not in the world’s top 20 economies by GDP (whether measured in nominal USD or PPP). South Africa was chosen not because of economic size, but because it is the largest and most industrialised economy in Africa.
I think Africa’s future lies with China and BRICS where South Africa is also a founding member and welcome by its members. In the long term, it will be a good thing for South Africa to diverge from the fentanyl intoxicated pedophiles.
Awesome .. yet the new expanded BRICS couldn't agree on a closing communique at the Rio talk shop. South Africa remains a sop to Africa in the majority of international groupings.
Africa brings nothing to BRICS, G20 etc other than begging bowls.
There are people who believe “Africa brings nothing”, then there’s China who has been Africa’s major trading partner for 16 straight years. I believe China has something for Africa and Africa has something for China. The future is in Afro-China cooperation not Yankee Gringos.
Purely extractive from the Chinese point of view. China will build infrastructure to export raw materials back to China. Africa will remain undeveloped because the word maintenance does not exist in any language of the Continent.
You know all the 2,200 languages in Africa. Impressive! Does any of them have the word “photovoltaic”? Should we conclude that Africans will not use solar panels from China because it’s not an African word? Is Substack turning into a cesspool?
Thanks to Sec Rubio for sending out this important information. I am a proud patriot, and feel that our country is once again demonstrating the finest example of democratic governance. I look forward to the G20 in 2026, and congratulate our administration on insisting on above-board and rational guidelines for choosing which countries to invite.
Voted for this. South Africa is DEI and ESG on steroids. Congratulations to Poland for achieving economic prosperity while preserving its borders and culture. The rest of Western Europe is headed the way of South Africa. England, France, and Germany continue their suicidal embrace of open borders, net zero, and censorship.
Well said ...from a South African
Said like a true racist.
YURI USA BECAME GREAT BECAUSE WE ALL DERIVED FROM IMMIGRANTS!!
Shut up, retard.
says another true racist
No one cares if you call them racist anymore, you dumb fucking retard.
We all adopted USA values.
👎🏼👎🏼 since there is no dislike option as a response to your bogus comment.
Immigrants that made great contributions to the well being and improvement of the USA; not the immigrants, legal and illegal, wanting to force the destruction of the nation.
What did you think of the response from Minister Lamola?
Well said, Secretary Rubio 💯
^^This!^^
Thank you for this clear vision and invitation to the South African Government to find its path back to sanity!
I am ashamed to be a South African!
I have come of age when South Africa produced enough cheap energy to energise the entire African Renaissance in 1992 - we had all the potential to build... all tribes and tongues of this multi-ethnic continent we still are. As Afrikaners, we democratically voted to go on Mandela's proposed path of reconciliation, to become the best versions each tribe can offer to our continent of many cultures. We did not sign up for CRITICAL RACE THEORY, CULTURAL MARXISM or PAN-AFRICANIST BLACK-RACE-NATIONALISM!
Still, the ANC's solipsistic, self-righteous and perpetual victimhood ideology has destroyed Mandela's promise, and this year the ANC decided to maintain their delusions of grandeur as if the world owes it anything but contempt for what it has destroyed... is destroying!
How would you reply to this passage from Minister Lamola's response?
"Today, more than 95 per cent of households have access to electricity, and piped water now reaches close to 90 per cent of households. This was not the case in 1994, when access to basic services was structured along racial lines, with white South Africans given preference over all other groups. Consider this for a moment: in 1994, only 40 per cent of black South Africans had access to electricity, compared with virtually universal access for white households. This skewed picture has only changed because successive democratic administrations did not waver on redistribution."
Those redistributive policies destroyed productive agency and locked the door for progress...
We should not want handouts because it is possible to create an entire class of people who will never want to create anything, build anything, or experience any sense of personal agency or accountability. The state will provide!
It's like being a bacteria in a petri dish!
That is the entire WEF agenda! COVID was a dress rehearsal!
Independent norm-forming communities are the solution, not "doomsday preppers" - productive community!
Post-1994, Eskom's National Electrification Programme electrified over 8.3 million households, increasinging access from 36% to 90%—a massive, distributed rural grid rollout unmatched globally at the timachieved throughvia subsidies, prepaid met, andeans & ANC policy focus on underserved areas. Yet, this drove demand surges without capacity planning, yielding minimal socio-economic lift: low usage (100kWh/month) among poor households stifled growth, while 1998 warnings of 2007 shortfalls were ignored amid privatisation
Too-late buildouts (Medupi/Kusile delayby ed years) + Zuma-era corruption (R139B stolen, syndicates looting coal) caused load shedding from 2007, costing R43B+ in GDP hits & sparking economconcerns that led to ic Eskom's R400B+ d.bt? Averted collapse only by endless bailouts from a shrinking tax base - look at the unemployment stats! SA's power promise, betrayed.
Assuming that what you say is accurate, it does not mean that the decision to ensure equal access to electricity was the incorrect decision.
If there is low usage in some areas, that indicates there is likely opposition to electricity. Even so, ensuring equal *access* allows for freedom.
It shows you that access to electricity is not magic. But I have created an idea that might sound socialist enough to you, even though it's not:
https://youtu.be/-wpEJi3pEl8?si=Nj4mRS5_3do_ewWs
Except no one is talking about “handouts.” We’re talking about equal access to electricity.
If you think ensuring equal access to electricity will encourage people never to create or build anything, I can only conclude that you are anti-electricity, in which case your participation in an Internet discussion is inconsistent with your own views.
You clearly don't know Eskom's post-1994 history and the disasters of (essentially) free access to electricity. Using energy/electricity to buy rural votes instead of creating jobs or functional communities and local economies.
You are partially correct; I am somewhat new to the history of South Africa. That is why I ordered two books yesterday.
I am not new to accessibility, however. Nothing that you said addresses the point of my previous post.
And then it collapsed in heap of 8 to 12 hours of blackouts .. where nobody had electricity.
I believe the Minister said that today, more than 95% of households have access to electricity. So it seems that those issues, if indeed they ever existed, have been ironed out.
Are you saying you believe it would have been better to continue the inequitable situation rather than temporarily inconvenience some people?
Having access does not mean that one has electricity. Having a tap in your home does not mean you have water, only potential access.
Yes, “access” means one can choose whether or not to utilize the service.
Thank you for that insight, Brett.
In South Africa's case it also means that "you may have a light plug or a tap but due to our incompetence we have no water or electricity to deliver to you"
Hundreds of children die from starvation in this country ... every year, 87 murders a day, a woman is raped every 74 seconds, 400+ GBV cases reported EVERY DAY!
Do not let the ANC pull the wool of the world's eyes.
Another shameful abdication of responsible leadership by Secretary of State Rubio, in this so-called justification for excluding South Africa. Shameless groveling to the extreme views of President Trump.
Excellent rebuttal. I like how you addressed Secretary Rubio's numerous points, one by one, with compelling evidence. Versus a snide, unsupported blanket statement. Well done, Mr. Expert.
You talk about extreme views? Please show me more extreme views than CRITICAL RACE THEORY, CULTURAL MARXISM or PAN-AFRICANIST BLACK-RACE-NATIONALISM!
It is destroying your own country, as well as the entire African Continent!
The African Union's official theme for 2025 is drenched in these extremely destructive views. This year the AU are looking for "Justice for Africans and People of African Descent Through Reparations."
These are the views being dismantled by the Trump Administration, and Secretary Rubio knows what these extreme views have been doing to the security of the USA and the World, for that matter!
P.S. Creating/Negotiating peace in the African Lakes Region is another win for the Trump Administration! Well done Secretary Rubio.
There is no peace in the Great Lakes. Unfortunately the fighting continues. Don’t believe everything the blabbering pedophile says! He lacks the competence to solve that conflict.
South Africa rates 41st among nations, behind countries like the Phillipines, Romania, Vietnam, Thailand and Bangladesh to name just a few between 30 and 40 list of national GDP.
While you did not make the US policy a racist issue (what are the 'extreme views' in your mind); others have to which I ask why is it racist to exclude South Africa but not racist to exclude other nations that have greater GDP than South Africa.
When the G20 was founded in 1999, South Africa was not in the world’s top 20 economies by GDP (whether measured in nominal USD or PPP). South Africa was chosen not because of economic size, but because it is the largest and most industrialised economy in Africa.
I think Africa’s future lies with China and BRICS where South Africa is also a founding member and welcome by its members. In the long term, it will be a good thing for South Africa to diverge from the fentanyl intoxicated pedophiles.
As you mention, South Africa is a founding member of G20. So why do you say that it was "chosen"?
Because it was “chosen” to be a founding member.
Awesome .. yet the new expanded BRICS couldn't agree on a closing communique at the Rio talk shop. South Africa remains a sop to Africa in the majority of international groupings.
Africa brings nothing to BRICS, G20 etc other than begging bowls.
There are people who believe “Africa brings nothing”, then there’s China who has been Africa’s major trading partner for 16 straight years. I believe China has something for Africa and Africa has something for China. The future is in Afro-China cooperation not Yankee Gringos.
Purely extractive from the Chinese point of view. China will build infrastructure to export raw materials back to China. Africa will remain undeveloped because the word maintenance does not exist in any language of the Continent.
You know all the 2,200 languages in Africa. Impressive! Does any of them have the word “photovoltaic”? Should we conclude that Africans will not use solar panels from China because it’s not an African word? Is Substack turning into a cesspool?
Fortunately, it seems that it is not possible to actually exclude South Africa.
Instead, the United States could "not invite" them. But that appears to be a formality.
As a South African well done Sir for Nailing it on my country and congratulations to Poland to get included
Thanks to Sec Rubio for sending out this important information. I am a proud patriot, and feel that our country is once again demonstrating the finest example of democratic governance. I look forward to the G20 in 2026, and congratulate our administration on insisting on above-board and rational guidelines for choosing which countries to invite.
Amen. Agree 💯 Welcome Poland.
Yes!
Yes, we voted for this. Thank you.
I'm South African. Great stuff Secretary Rubio. Big fan of yours. #Rubio2028
Thank u ,Oom Donald Trump and all his angels for not falling for the leftist narrative and making your country shine a light in the darkness!! Amen
Respect pour votre travaille contre la corruption mondiale 💯
Good news for Poland & their economy booming! It will be nice for the upcoming G20 summit in Miami, Florida !
Well said, Sec Rubio!
I VOTED FOR THIS 🇺🇸
Lamola Reponds to Rubio
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2025-12-04-we-do-not-seek-your-approval-for-our-path-ronald-lamola-replies-to-marco-rubio/
Brilliant, well said Lamola.
Excellent. Thank you Ramola.
Grateful for this substack. Refreshing to get statements from time to time directly from The Secretary of State. Thanks.